25 points by andsoitis 4 hours ago | 6 comments
zaknil 2 hours ago
> put the lungs into a constant state of readiness, allowing fast responses to almost any invading germ

Succeeding at this would prove that our bodies have the capacity to do that but evolution "tuned" the system differently. A corollary would be that this vaccination is probably a net negative for public health, even if nobody'd really know why.

Izkata 1 hour ago
Don't bat immune systems work like this? Except they end up in equilibrium instead of eliminating the viruses, which is why it's so dangerous to come into contact with them.

I think almost everyone would avoid this if it meant you became deadly to your dog or cat.

latexr 1 hour ago
Fascinating. Looks like you’re right. However, disease and other stressors can disrupt that equilibrium.

https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2020/bat-super-immun...

Which means bats are the Mr Burns of the animal kingdom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI0euMFAWF8

danielbln 1 hour ago
Next up: scientists are creating the everything vaccine for dogs and cats.
tialaramex 31 minutes ago
No. Evolution is not "tuning" it's just statistics at a huge scale. The high likelihood of back pain, the lack of important sensors, broken synthesis pathways, this is not a carefully tuned system, this is just blind luck plus statistics. Which means we can do better because we're purposeful.
MathMonkeyMan 2 hours ago
Maybe not! Let's find out.
allreduce 1 hour ago
I'm in my armchair thinking autoimmune diseases.
OutOfHere 47 minutes ago
Autoimmune diseases often are due to suboptimal vitamin D3 softgel intake or suboptimal magnesium intake. Bringing both to highly optimal levels should minimize the risk of development of new or worsening autoimmune diseases, although it won't revert any existing ones. Low dosing either one doesn't work in this context.
wasting_time 4 hours ago
jmward01 2 hours ago
It seems like every year we find links between viruses and disease. I wonder if broader vaccines will lead to accidentally eradicating some diseases like the HPV vaccine is currently eradicating cervical cancer.
chistev 2 hours ago
Joe Rogan wouldn't like this.
bckr 3 hours ago
“Put that **** directly into my veins”, as they say
neonstatic 2 hours ago
That's how it typically works, yes.
sva_ 1 hour ago
Typically intramuscular actually
neonstatic 1 hour ago
That's true.
KetoManx64 2 hours ago
How much you want to bet that you'll have to get a yearly booster shot so their stock prices can keep going up?
neonstatic 2 hours ago
As someone who has taken the HPV vaccine, I'd take the other side of that trade. It's been 6 years since covid mania, who is taking these booster shots now? Anyone?
ninalanyon 30 minutes ago
> who is taking these booster shots now?

People who would be at risk of serious harm if they catch it. At least that's how it works in here in Norway. See https://www.fhi.no/en/va/vaccines-for-adults/vaccines-in-the...

aziaziazi 19 minutes ago
Same here in France, and it’s free as in “paid by public money".

persons aged 65 years and over; people under 65 with certain chronic diseases (including children from 6 months of age); pregnant women; people with obesity (with a body mass index, BMI, greater than or equal to 40); persons staying in a follow-up care facility or in a medico-social accommodation facility, irrespective of their age. Vaccination is also recommended for other populations, in order to ensure indirect protection: health professionals (especially those who have contact with people at risk), the entourage of infants under 6 months at risk of serious complications and immunocompromised people, home help for vulnerable people, professionals exposed to swine and avian influenza viruses.

https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A...