30 points by ivanbelenky 1 day ago | 4 comments
DaOne256 1 hour ago
This should be linked as the original post: https://ir.cwi.nl/pub/5998

It says 1988 there.

mzs 45 minutes ago
decasia 48 minutes ago
It's a neat project. Write cross platform desktop apps in C. Presumably it would not have been very usable in practice in the late 1980s, because of all the OTHER system interfaces that still weren't portable, even if the windowing system was available in a portable way.

I can remember the subsequent period in which Java desktop apps were relatively common. They had cross platform UI by default. But the problem was:

1) cross platform GUIs are ugly by default, compared to fully native desktop apps, because they don't entirely replicate the affordances or the style of the platform;

2) in the Java case, it seemed heavyweight to install and sluggish compared to native apps;

Point 2 would not have applied to stdwin, as it would have produced small compiled binaries I suppose, but Point 1 would have.

So in the end, obviously web apps (and partly, Flash) took over the niche that "cross platform desktop apps" had once tried to fill, and then it was something of a dead zone until Electron, as far as I remember.

flohofwoe 24 minutes ago
The other popular option for cross-platform UI apps was Tcl/Tk:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tk_(software)

...which even leaked into other language ecosystems like Python:

https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html

shevy-java 1 hour ago
How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX?

Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.

ramon156 20 minutes ago
> quite young

> 32 years old

As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?

ChrisMarshallNY 16 minutes ago
I’m nearly 64.

Back when I was a teenager, people in their 20s were “old farts.”

Nowadays, I look at people in their 40s, as “kids.”

Here’s my first ever engineering project (1987): https://littlegreenviper.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/TF30...

I was 25, at the time, and a fairly newly-minted EE.

romankolpak 14 minutes ago
It's all relative. When I was 20, I'd consider myself old at 36. Now when I am 36, my definition of old has shifted and it's now somewhere past 50. I guess "old" for a person is just that person 10+ years older :)
magpi3 3 minutes ago
Yes
rowanG077 13 minutes ago
Young is relative. To an 80 year old someone who is 40 is young. To an 8 year old someone who is 20 is old.
f1shy 51 minutes ago
I would say roff, not LaTeX
ale42 1 hour ago
(1988)