52 points by bookofjoe 2 days ago | 4 comments
jrrv 26 minutes ago
Such an interesting artefact just sat under some guy's barn... can't help but wonder how many more items like this there are out there, and how many of them we'll never find before they're accidentally destroyed.
OJFord 1 hour ago
Bound the halves with copper wire! I always end up with more questions than answers on these things, how was the wire made? I suppose if I'd thought about it, clearly they could do wire for jewellery.

Never ceases to impress me how long ago we were capable of such ornate manufacturing really—most of the time I think progress has been wildly more rapid over the last century or so, and it has in some ways, but in others we're still just doing things we've been doing for millennia.

gedy 9 hours ago
Interesting topic, but so sad to see the Smithsonian blanketed in tacky popups and scrolling ad banners, yikes
fransje26 41 minutes ago
In this day and age, who on HN browses the web without an ad-blocker??
gedy 38 minutes ago
I am using blockers! I appreciate my plugins and/or adblock home could have some issue, but point stands about the Smithsonian.
jrrv 28 minutes ago
I'm using uBlock, and I didn't see a single advert.
sandworm101 5 hours ago
Funny, i didnt see any ads or popups. Horray for adblockers!
Mistletoe 6 hours ago
> The Smithsonian Institution endowment is a roughly $2.6 billion investment portfolio (as of 2024) that provides permanent, private financial support for its museums, research, and educational programs. It acts as a crucial supplement to federal funding, investing in diversified assets like stocks, bonds, and private equity to generate annual payouts, which generally support staff positions

I guess $2.6B isn’t enough in the late stage capitalism era to stave off tacky.

ggm 3 hours ago
Hate to be a party pooper but what kind of income do you beleive is sustaining for a national museum with extensive archives, repositories, conservation costs and ongoing collection needs, quite apart from simple building maintenance, outreach and staffing?

$2.6b generates at best of the order $200m in usable funds. I would be amazed if that is even remotely close to the operating costs of an institution like this.

Someone 1 hour ago
Reading https://www.si.edu/sites/default/files/oa/smithsonian-2024-w..., they’re spending $1.7b a year.

Interesting financial report, by the way. Lots of info about what they do with photos, lists of who donated money, and then, the real financials start at page 79 of 87 and end on page 82.

ggm 1 hour ago
has "Endowment Payout 7%" which is a fine figure, both of their total revenue and of the %return on investment you get as a sustaining proposition from a long life fund.

Half the opex is federally funded. half the costs are salaries. The SI employs a lot of people and costs far, far more than the endowment to operate.

the page 80 endowment disbursement distribution is fascinating too. they do amazingly good work across the board, from this money.

I have a tiny, weenie functional duty of care on a board over a sum 1/100 of this size and if I felt we were doing as well as them in governance, I'd be proud.

I will say, I think they should lawyer up and defend the retention of the shuttle and tell the politicians to F off but I can understand reluctance to be this bald about it.

twooclock 5 hours ago
Now find the spearehed, please!

Is it possible? What are the chances? Was bronze age production heigh enough?

inglor_cz 3 hours ago
Most ancient metalwork got recycled again and again, so while there is a chance, it would be pure luck.

BTW if you visit some archeological museum, the difference between Stone Age tools and Bronze Age tools is quite striking. In the Stone Age, each tool looks different, while by the Bronze Age, the spearheads etc. are so uniform that they could have been produced in a modern factory.

card_zero 2 hours ago
Yes and no. Here's a pile of 19 polished stone axes:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Malone_hoard.JPG

They're admittedly different sizes, but the intent to churn them out is clear. These things were ambiguously tools or currency: they were transported long distances and hoarded.

There was another, older, stone age industrial site in France that produced thousands of beads. The way I remember it*, there was evidence that they fed themselves by trading beads for food. It's interesting to me that a stone age lifestyle might for some people resemble factory work.

*My apologies if I'm confabulating this. I think it was in the Loire Valley. I need to track down what exactly I'm half-remembering here.

inglor_cz 1 hour ago
This is an interesting counterexample, thank you. It seems that in some places, some standardization was already present back then.