82 points by todsacerdoti 4 hours ago | 12 comments
kjuulh 2 minutes ago
Upgrading to Sequoia was a mistake, and so was upgrading to Tahoe.

I like new and shiny software, but these two releases aren't great. Outside of a good amount of bugs. It is wild to me that Apple can't even get their own UI consistent.

Apples own apps are pretty much the only things you can't close. Finder: can't quit. System settings, somehow doesn't expand horizontally (are we still in the 2000s apple?) I haven't felt the liquid glass or whatever too much on the laptop, but I just used one of my family members Iphone today, and man it was distracting, it seems crazy that contrast has gone out the window.

But especially the bugs. Apple should really take a release that is just bug fixing. I had to switch out Spotlight because it kept trying to want to index my entire system, which is hard when you work in both Rust and typescript projects (lots of small files).

DavidPiper 1 hour ago
I accidentally hit the wrong button a few weeks ago and upgraded to Tahoe. I didn't think it was that big a deal at the time, I'd just been putting it off.

But having used it for a few weeks now I can confirm it is a strict downgrade over Sequoia for me. I use none of the new features it has introduced, and the changes to existing features are just worse.

Some UI animations are slow and jittery - and this is on an M4 Pro. The Finder has gone from fine to janky once again, especially with horizontal scroll. The window corners and mouse interactions are indeed annoying (I'd assumed the many complaints were at least slight hyperbole). Left-aligned window titles are unbalanced and ugly. I've had weird (visual) app duplication issues with the Application smart-folder in the Dock. Cross-device copy-paste SEEMS to be more flaky than usual. And most petty of all I really don't like the new icons - especially the Trash icon for some reason.

apparent 1 minute ago
Good to know. My dad recently asked and I didn't know the pros/cons. I haven't upgraded but that's because I don't have a need to. He has a new Mac mini, and I thought it might make sense for him. But it sounds like it's not an upgrade, and is possibly a downgrade, especially if it will make things harder to find.
TuxSH 20 minutes ago
Also Apple Music is much worse (harder to bring miniplayer, seek bar harder to use) and list of misfeatures goes on and on and on
gib444 56 minutes ago
> Some UI animations are slow and jittery - and this is on an M4 Pro

On an M4 Pro! Pure planned obsecelence. Noticed it regularly with major MacOS releases. Nothing will convince me otherwise.

teaearlgraycold 43 minutes ago
Yeah they should have bought the M5 Pro /s
Hamuko 1 hour ago
I have Tahoe on my work laptop and Sequoia on my personal desktop, and the thing that keeps me the most rooted on Sequoia is the padding. Everything on Tahoe is padded to hell and back. And the new tab design sucks so much. iTerm2 tabs look fucking terrible in it.
pier25 1 hour ago
It's much easier to simply use this with whatever date you prefer:

    defaults write com.apple.SoftwareUpdate MajorOSUserNotificationDate -date "2030-03-03 12:00:00 +0000"
egb 22 minutes ago
I've got that in place and still get the Tahoe popups, so there's some other mechanism here.
fidotron 47 minutes ago
Same problem here.

Linux + KDE surpassed Windows many years ago, now I find I also prefer it to the Mac laptops, which are otherwise better only for portability.

Apple need to get their software act together. Such a shame because the hardware is awesome. A near perfect inversion of the era of Tiger on the G4.

beacon294 20 minutes ago
I read the old forums carefully:

- simply decline/reject the TOS on install. It will auto uninstall the installer and go away.

Life has been good since.

1f60c 5 minutes ago
I TRUSTED YOU! Nooooooooo!

Anyway, I hope you're happy.

(To be fair, I assumed it would show me a TOS prompt again, but it did not. Oh well. No hard feelings either way here.)

thecopy 1 hour ago
Im planning on getting the new M5 MBP i expect to be released next week. Is it possible to downgrade? I assume it comes with Tahoe :(
mhurron 1 hour ago
Typically no, Mac's don't expect to run versions of macOS before the one they were released with.
sgloutnikov 11 minutes ago
It's possible if you do a wipe and do a fresh install. You essentially boot into the Sequoia installer. I'm also looking at possibly picking up a M5 MBP and was the first things I looked into.
layer8 23 minutes ago
It’s not worth it, especially since the M6 MBP is rumored to already come out later this year (though likely with a price hike): https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/26/two-unique-new-macbook-pros-a...
teaearlgraycold 43 minutes ago
Why not buy a used M4 Pro/Max?
mpalmer 1 hour ago
Almost certainly not :|
xbar 8 minutes ago
Thank you. I own several Macs. One is on Tahoe. It feels the worst. More than myself, though, I need to give my less technical family members a respite from the tricky traps that lead to inadvertently installing it.
crazygringo 57 minutes ago
> Which means I have the joy of seeing things like this wonderful notification on a regular basis.

Weird, I haven't seen that once. I wonder what explains the difference?

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tl2do 42 minutes ago
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poly2it 30 minutes ago
Thank you, HN user with 66 karma registered 14 days ago.
Xiol 10 minutes ago
And with a love of the emdash and lists, too.
billylo 36 minutes ago
Thank you for your service.
hhh 1 hour ago
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slashink 1 hour ago
I run both, Tahoe on laptop, Sequoia on mac studio. Tahoe is strictly worse, the corner radius drag issue is driving me crazy on the daily.
bombcar 40 minutes ago
There’s a command to make the corner bigger.

   defaults write -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize 8
JaggerJo 1 hour ago
+1 exact same situation.

having Tahoe on my MacBook made me appreciate Sequoia on my mac Studio. A real downgrade..

doawoo 20 minutes ago
It actively ruins multimedia software I use in live performances- so no I don’t just need to upgrade
azan_ 46 minutes ago
It's ugly and slow, I see no reason why I would want to "upgrade" to that.