64 points by bryanrasmussen 4 hours ago | 5 comments
HelloUsername 3 hours ago
Related: "Single bone in Spain offers first direct evidence of Hannibal's war elephants" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46917005 06-feb-2026 40 comments
shevy-java 2 hours ago
> A second-century Roman mosaic of a war elephant in Tunisia

It is quite interesting to see that the depicted elephant has wrong proportions. This makes one wonder whether the artist who created that mosaic, ever saw an elephant himself.

sonofhans 1 hour ago
Pure speculation, of course, but I would say so. The hump in the back; the small, high, tail; dominant forehead — those are all things missed by people who mis-draw elephants. I think this artist got them right, which is hard to do from description alone.
bertil 1 hour ago
I’m very tempted to agree with you: people who draw from description draw unicorns after being told about rhinoceroses. We have a lot of medieval monks’ drawings of elephants by description and theirs look like tapir with a trumpet stuck in their nose. This is not a photo, of course but it mainly highlights the head, like any one would if they didn’t measured proportions carefully.
beloch 1 hour ago
There has also been debate about which species of elephant Hannibal's forces used. Elsewhere, Hellenistic Greek forces used Asian elephants, but many believe Hannibal used North African elephants, a sub-species that was extirpated by the Romans. Their proportions might have been a little different than living elephants. It will be interesting to see if the bone can help settle this debate.
drekipus 2 hours ago
Wrong to elephants today
inglor_cz 1 hour ago
Might be a limitation of the medium. Mosaics are complicated.

This famous "skeleton" mosaic has the proportions wrong as well, even though the artist almost certainly saw some actual human skeletons, and definitely some living humans with their longer arms and smaller heads than depicted :)

https://www.thehistoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Ha...

__alexander 2 hours ago
Everyone should visit Córdoba, Spain once in their life.
rrr_oh_man 1 hour ago
why?
inglor_cz 1 hour ago
The mosque-turned-cathedral is an interesting (and huge) piece of medieval architecture.

The Roman bridge is fascinating as well.

Plus, if you arrive in summer, you will learn what heat is. Córdoba is hot even for the standards of Spanish summers. Hence, interesting night life. Not just drunkards, normal families and everyone who barely survived the day and now has the opportunity to live and socialize outside.

bryanrasmussen 4 hours ago
original title: Archaeologists Unearthed a 2,200-Year-Old Bone. They Say It Could Be the First Direct Evidence of Hannibal’s Legendary War Elephants
sickofparadox 3 hours ago
At this rate, we're only a few years away from discovering evidence for Herodotus' giant ants.
Telemakhos 1 hour ago
shakna 3 hours ago
Peissel claimed that was marmots and totally real, didn't they?